The So-called Dallas Principles

Who are the founders of these Principles,
On May 15-17, 2009 in Dallas, Texas twenty-four thinkers, activists, and donors gathered to discuss the immediate need for full equality for lesbian, gay, bisexual transgender people in the United States.  Collectively they prepared The Dallas Principles. Click here to see the list for yourself.

1. Juan Ahonen-Jover, Ph.D.  - Miami Beach, FL
2. Ken Ahonen-Jover - Miami Beach, FL
3. John Bare - San Franciso, CA
4. Jarrett Tomás Barrios - Boston, MA
5. Dana Beyer, MD - Montgomery County, MD
6. Jeffrey H. Campagna - New York, NY
7. Mandy Carter - Durham, NC
8. Michael Coe - Washington, DC
9. Jimmy Creech - Raliegh, NC
10. Allison Duncan - San Francisco, CA
11. Michael Guest - Washington, DC
12. Joanne Herman - Boston, MA
13. Donald Hitchcock - Washington, DC
14. Lane Hudson - Washington, DC
15. Charles Merrill - Palm Springs, CA
16. Dixon Osburn, Washington, DC
17. Lisa Polyak, Baltimore, MD
18. Barbra Casbar Siperstein, Edison, NJ
19. Pam Spaulding - Durham, NC
20. Andy Szekeres - Denver, CO
21. Lisa Turner, Virginia Beach, VA
22. Jon Winkleman, New York, NY
23. Paul Yandura - Washington, DC 
24. Joe Falk- not listed on site, found on pam's houseblend.
    

So who is the 24th person,, this person isn’t listed on the site, MMM why? So what are these very so-called important Principle, one might ask they are below,
The following eight guiding principles underlie our call to action.  In order to achieve full civil rights now, we avow:

1. Full civil rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals must be enacted now.  Delay and excuses are no longer acceptable.
2. We will not leave any part of our community behind.
3. Separate is never equal.
4. Religious beliefs are not a basis upon which to affirm or deny civil rights.
5. The establishment and guardianship of full civil rights is a non-partisan issue.
6. Individual involvement and grassroots action are paramount to success and must be encouraged.
7. Success is measured by the civil rights we all achieve, not by words, access or money raised.
8. Those who seek our support are expected to commit to these principles.

FULL CIVIL RIGHTS GOALS
Being united by common principles and engaging in united action, we will achieve the following goals:

1. DIGNITY AND EQUALITY. Every lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender person has inherent dignity and worth, and has the right to live free of discrimination and harassment.
2. FAMILY.  Every LGBT person has the right to a family without legal barriers to immigration, civil marriage or raising children.
3. ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.  Every LGBT person has the right to economic opportunity free from discrimination in employment, public housing, accommodation, public facilities, credit, and federally funded programs and activities.
4. EDUCATION. Every LGBT child and youth has the right to an education that is affirming, inclusive and free from bullying.
5. NATIONAL SECURITY.  Every LGBT person should have the opportunity to serve our country openly and equally in our military and foreign service.
6. CRIME.  Every LGBT person should enjoy life protected against bias crimes.
7. HEALTH CARE.  Every person should have access to affordable, high quality, and culturally competent health care without discrimination.

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First off Health Care is not a real LGBT issue since over 40.6 millions of Americans don’t have health insurance.. Care is never the same at all, those whom can pay always get the best health care in this country. All Crimes are commit on some form of bias, the poor guy steal from the rich guy, is this a hate crime? Education is again not a LGBT concern, those who are Bully have the power to stop it, all they have to do is to Stand up to the Bullier. Once the Bullier see that he can no longer bully you they often will leave the person alone. If you have the strength to come out of the closet then you have the strength to stand up to protect yourself. We all have the same Economic Opportunity, we just have to apply ourselves to achieve those opportunities. No Family unit is perfect there for this one is null and void. National Security, this one is not a LGBT solely item, there are many who would love to serve their country but are not allow to do so for many reasons. Last but not least Dignity and Equality, Please we don’t even have these things within our own community, so how can we except the str8 to give us this things as well.
Let see what others are saying about The Dallas Principles,

NGBOLG, and Focus had this to say (updated)

Granted the "Dallas 24" have only been so for about two weeks, but when you have a bunch of self anointed demigods claiming to represent the LGBT community, establishing a set of principles and goals, and a cute little widget and logo they want you and me to add to our blogs for free, the skeptic in me says, not so fast, guys.

While I do have some admiration for the idea, I find it personally amusing that they use the terms thinkers, activists and donors as if they are the only ones in the LGBT community who can accomplish something for the community at large.

So far, all I've seen from this bunch is videos posted on YouTube and blogs on Huffington Post and Air America; which is okay, actually. They're getting the word out and that's a good thing.

Queer Equality Revolution had this to say,

The "idea" of full federal equality is great, BUT -
I believe we cannot "demand" anything and get what we want without wielding some kind of POWER, and the ONLY power we have is our tax dollars.

The OutQ News Blog had this to say,

There are critics of the effort– some grousing that the group was self-selected and provided no advance notice to or access by the media.
Others say the groups membership was dominated by politicos from big coastal cities, and still others express concern that the group did not have sufficient racial diversity.
But C. Dixon Osburn –one of the 24 activists— says the group was just a group of friends trying to inspire the gay movement.

Osburn: “We don’t want to be an organization. We don’t say that we speak for the movement. We see The Dallas Principles as an invitation the entire community to adopt them, to incorporate them into their personal lives, incorporate them into their volunteerism, and by doing so, hold accountable political and appointed leaders and organizations.”

For better or worst, this group might do some good, but I fear that more damage will be done then good. When you have a group of people who think they know what is best for our community without the community input first, things often go wrong, infighting starts.

here is FOCUS youtude video on the matter,

The So-called Dallas Principles

Just a Thought Really

If these two Lawyer who filed the Prop8 lawsuit wins, and Gay Marriage become to all 50 states, would we still need those Org's that didn't want this suit to be filed???

The Pics that Obama is trying to block, ( might show cases of Female rape)

The Telegraph reports on the pictures Obama is trying to keep from the public eye:

At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee. Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube.

Larisa Alexandrovna recalls that pictures of this sort have already been released and re-posts them.

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If this is true them Obama need to take his sorry bi-racial ass out of the white house... If our service member are over then raping then they need to be arrest and throw in jail.. Over there, not here, Ok, Obama its time to release those Photos,, unless you know that they are raping people now over there, no would you claim it would be our men in more harm way...

In April, Mr Obama’s administration said the photographs would be released and it would be “pointless to appeal” against a court judgment in favour of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
But after lobbying from senior military figures, Mr Obama changed his mind saying they could put the safety of troops at risk.

Earlier this month, he said: “The most direct consequence of releasing them, I believe, would be to inflame anti-American public opinion and to put our troops in greater danger.”

 Ok Obama , let those photo flow,, RELEASE THE DAMN PHOTOS,, RELEASE THE PHOTOS..... STOP HIDING BEHIND THE SO CALL NATIONAL SECURITY ACT....

Andrew Sullivan Take on the Lawsuit that Gay Groups don't want

"Make Change, Not Lawsuits"

The ACLU, GLAD, Lambda, NCLR, the Equality Federation, Freedom to Marry, GLAAD, HRC and NGLTF are not happy about the Olson lawsuit:

In response to the California Supreme Court decision allowing Prop 8 to stand, four LGBT legal organizations and five other leading national LGBT groups are reminding the LGBT community that ill-timed lawsuits could set the fight for marriage back.  The groups released a new publication, “Why the ballot box and not the courts should be the next step on marriage in California.”  This publication discourages people from bringing premature lawsuits based on the federal Constitution because, without more groundwork, the U.S. Supreme Court likely is not yet ready to rule that same-sex couples cannot be barred from marriage.  The groups also revised “Make Change, Not Lawsuits,” which was released after the California Supreme Court decision ending the ban on marriage for same-sex couples in California.  This publication encourages couples who have legally married to ask friends, neighbors and institutions to honor their marriages, but discourages people from bringing lawsuits.

More info on the suit here. The complaint can be read here (pdf).

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Its all about the money and fame,, if these two guys win this lawsuit then they get the glory, not the gay organizations or groups..

this person thinks so as well from Pams houseblend..

*[new] Our orgs just want more money (4.00 / 2)

Let's be brutally honest here:  setbacks in the LGBT equality movement are marvelous fundraising tools, particularly when we are subject to mob rule at the ballot box.  We get f*cked over a few more times after sinking many millions into more ballot measures, and the only people to benefit directly will be the top management of the orgs behind them and the vendors they choose to print signs and run mailings.  They'll write more limp-wristed letters about "disappointment"--no, Neil, we're OUTRAGED by the CA SC opinion!--and use up more media time; and nothing will change for another 50 to 60 years.  On the other hand, taking the challenge to the federal courts has been more successful in pursuing matters of equality over and over.

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by: greatwhitebear @ Thu May 28, 2009 at 08:05:57 AM EDT

Gay Orgs Don't Want Federal Lawsuit , (lawsuit isn't theirs and no way to make money)

Let talk about one reason that they aren't talking about,, this suit wasn't bought by them they didn't have they sticky hands in on it.. If they are not apart of the Lawsuit they can't ask us for money that is the main reason.. Last November Prop8 bought in Millions of dollars for these groups that is what they were hoping for this time again as well..

Former U.S. Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson and David Boies, who represented then-Vice President Al Gore in the contested election, have joined forces to tackle the same-sex marriage issue, which has deeply divided Californians and left 18,000 gay couples married last year in legal isolation. In a project of the American Foundation for Equal Rights, Olson and Boies have united to represent two same-sex couples filing suit after being denied marriage licenses because of Proposition 8. Their suit, to be filed in U.S. District Court in California, calls for an injunction against the proposition, allowing immediate reinstatement of marriage rights for same-sex couples.

See they didn't help with it.. they now have no rights to used this lawsuit as a money making machine for them...That is why they are against a Lawsuit..

These groups wants another prop8 measure to fleece the gay community of millions and millions of dollars for their coffers.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

May 27, 2009, New York, NY
PRESS CONTACT:
Evan Wolfson
Executive Director, Freedom to Marry
Tel: 212-851-8418; Mobile: 646-263-5552
Email: evan@freedomtomarry.org

New York, May 27, 2009 — In response to the California Supreme Court decision allowing Prop 8 to stand, four LGBT legal organizations and five other leading national LGBT groups are reminding the LGBT community that ill-timed lawsuits could set the fight for marriage back. The groups released a new publication, “Why the ballot box and not the courts should be the next step on marriage in California.” This publication discourages people from bringing premature lawsuits based on the federal Constitution because, without more groundwork, the U.S. Supreme Court likely is not yet ready to rule that same-sex couples cannot be barred from marriage. The groups also revised “Make Change, Not Lawsuits,” which was released after the California Supreme Court decision ending the ban on marriage for same-sex couples in California. This publication encourages couples who have legally married to ask friends, neighbors and institutions to honor their marriages, but discourages people from bringing lawsuits.

"Why the ballot box and not the courts should be the next step on marriage in California” is available at http://www.freedomtomarry.org/pdfs/why_the_ballot_box.pdf

"Make Change, Not Lawsuits" is available at http://www.freedomtomarry.org/pdfs/make_change_not_lawsuits-0509_update.pdf

Sister Unity take on Prop8 ruling